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		<title>By: gyuen</title>
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		<dc:creator>gyuen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;enjoying your blog and find the same difficulties on searching patent&#039;s expiry date. Does it has a rule to calculate say 10/50 years governing by different countries? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;come to my blog if you have time &lt;a href=&quot;http://imails.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;email marketing&lt;/a&gt; n &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mayor.com.hk/flexiblepackaging&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;flexible packaging&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>enjoying your blog and find the same difficulties on searching patent&#8217;s expiry date. Does it has a rule to calculate say 10/50 years governing by different countries? </p>
<p>come to my blog if you have time <a href="http://imails.net" rel="nofollow">email marketing</a> n <a href="http://www.mayor.com.hk/flexiblepackaging" rel="nofollow">flexible packaging</a></p>
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		<title>By: adnan</title>
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		<dc:creator>adnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How can I learn a patent&#039;s expiry date?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 01:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Erin-Michael&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I see what you mean, but there&#039;s no need to republish each time a renewal fee is paid - in many other countries that would be every year.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What we are talking about is the maximum term of the patent, assuming all renewals are paid.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In actual practice, patents are handled in a triaged manner.&#160; The due diligence proceeds by iterations of increasingly detailed analyses to test relevance to the task at hand.&#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Patent term is one of the simple ways to test relevance - you won&#039;t infringe after this date.&#160; In practice, companies handling large freedom to operate due diligences will proceed from simple analyses such as term and family members, through literal claim scope, non-literal claim scope (DOE in the US, etc), validity, and so on.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Erin-Michael</p>
<p>I see what you mean, but there&#8217;s no need to republish each time a renewal fee is paid &#8211; in many other countries that would be every year.</p>
<p>What we are talking about is the maximum term of the patent, assuming all renewals are paid.</p>
<p>In actual practice, patents are handled in a triaged manner.&nbsp; The due diligence proceeds by iterations of increasingly detailed analyses to test relevance to the task at hand.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Patent term is one of the simple ways to test relevance &#8211; you won&#8217;t infringe after this date.&nbsp; In practice, companies handling large freedom to operate due diligences will proceed from simple analyses such as term and family members, through literal claim scope, non-literal claim scope (DOE in the US, etc), validity, and so on.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin-Michael Gill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin-Michael Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 00:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Duncan,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for comment on my blog. And you are right, it is the easy way out for patent offices.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My only point is that in almost every single case, even if an expected maximum life date is published on the cover,&#160;one will still need to check the file history to see if it is abandoned or not. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A newly issued patent in the US will expire 3.5 years after grant if the maintenance fees are not paid. The only way to check is in the file history.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even if&#160;the office publishes&#160;future 3.5, 7.5, 11.5 year dates and the legal maximum date and keeps track of any extensions due to drug approvals, it still can only&#160;tell me when the case is going to expire in one instance - only when in that window between 11.5 years and the legal maximum. Even then that assumes the Office would republish each application when it went abandoned to let the community&#160;know that it had not been renewed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If a company is making investment decisions based on when a patent expires, they should likely be checking the file histories anyway. In the end, the work to keep track of&#160;and republish all of those patents, probably outweighs the societial benefit.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Duncan,</p>
<p>Thanks for comment on my blog. And you are right, it is the easy way out for patent offices.</p>
<p>My only point is that in almost every single case, even if an expected maximum life date is published on the cover,&nbsp;one will still need to check the file history to see if it is abandoned or not. </p>
<p>A newly issued patent in the US will expire 3.5 years after grant if the maintenance fees are not paid. The only way to check is in the file history.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Even if&nbsp;the office publishes&nbsp;future 3.5, 7.5, 11.5 year dates and the legal maximum date and keeps track of any extensions due to drug approvals, it still can only&nbsp;tell me when the case is going to expire in one instance &#8211; only when in that window between 11.5 years and the legal maximum. Even then that assumes the Office would republish each application when it went abandoned to let the community&nbsp;know that it had not been renewed.</p>
<p>If a company is making investment decisions based on when a patent expires, they should likely be checking the file histories anyway. In the end, the work to keep track of&nbsp;and republish all of those patents, probably outweighs the societial benefit.</p>
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